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I like both jackets TTS and fitted trimly in the sleeves, but don't crop them too short, give a half break or so in the sleeves (that's an inch or so) if it's a bomber, measure to where he small of your hand ends if it's a DR or Moto, and then wear your jeans as normal (you probably wear your jeans on your hips) and measure to a little past the waistband or so, or to the button if you want for the front length. You can add more or less to your taste and proportions, of course. Once in awhile we see people find their right size, and then add like 2" of length, worrying it'll be too short, and then it comes out too long. 2" of jacket = 4" of total height, so that's quite a lot. Anyway, that's the ins and outs of sizing these jackets, it's always been the same. A slim Bomber (not too tight, but not generous) when put on is a very cool feeling, something you can't really get from anyone else but us.