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TOJ moto - slim, not tight; falling to right above the waistband, perhaps a bit on the short side. The sleeves and body are straight cut on this so measuring ideal lengths should be easier (or harder). The keystone measurement for getting a good fit IMO would be the shoulder width. Give me a shoulder to shoulder measurement in a half-inch increment, and then let me know whether you have a broad chest or not; most people will fit into the house torso body pattern, some guys with particularly large upper bodies will want to get a combination of accordian sleeve backs and a slight bump out of the p2p to give it some chest. I also need to know your bicep circumference, flexed and unflexed, to decide on a sleeve size. The house cut (body+sleeves) pattern is for skinny guys with pretty much no muscle.